THE CALL AND THE COMPANIONSHIP BETWEEN CALLS

A thirty-minute call each month plus UNLIMITED access to write in between. The call anchors. Texting and emailing carry you between anchors. The next call builds on that. 

WHERE THINKING OUT LOUD
AND THINKING
IN INK MEET.

Because some things you can only think through by saying them out loud, and some things you can only see once you write them down.

BOTH/AND is for people who process in both directions.

The CALL gives you the voice, conversation, and anchor, as the thing that only becomes clear when you hear yourself say it.

UNLIMITED gives you the 'ink,' the emailing or texting at 2 am, the thoughts that came to you in the car, the emotions that came after the call and needed to be met while it was still alive. Together, they hold what one alone would lose.


I don't tell you what to do.
I tell you what's happening, 

so you can move with it consciously.

- Jonni O'Connor Gray

How IT WorkS 

a 30-minute call each month

A thirty-minute call, by phone or non-visual Zoom. Voice-to-voice, on what's most alive right now whether that's a moving pattern or a decision that needs to be made, or the thing you can only think through by saying it out loud. 

Unlimited access between calls

Text or email whenever you want, as often as you want, about anything you want.  I'll respond within the hour, from dawn to 9 pm PST, seven days a week.

Consistent Continuity across both

The call and the writing feed each other. What comes up in our emails and texts becomes the ground for the next call. What happens on the call becomes context for the writing after. I remember all of it — your patterns, people, symbols, your whole story, so nothing has to be re-explained.

This is for you  if-

01

You already understand a lot, but understanding hasn't been enough to move what's actually moving.

02

You're inside something (a grief, a decision, a relationship, a health situation, a transition) that doesn't reduce to a fix.

03

You want the anchor of a real conversation and the companionship of someone who can hold what comes up in the days after.

04

You process in both directions. Some things you can only think through out loud. Others you can only see once you write them down.

Yes, this is for you.

Pricing

BOTH/AND is $333 a month, paid monthly, with a three-month minimum.

After the three months, it can continue month-to-month for as long as it's serving you.

I take only a small number of these at a time. It's a lot of me: voice, writing, memory, and continual presence — and I want to do it well.

If you were to build BOTH/AND from my other offerings (a monthly single-session call at $195, plus a month of UNLIMITED at $250), you'd be at $445 a month. BOTH/AND is $333. But the discount isn't the reason to choose it.

The reason is the continuity: the call and the writing feed each other, so the work doesn't evaporate the moment the call ends.


The container

BEGIN BOTH/AND HERE

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